Grouping option that was on BC / A must have on Siteglide

Hi, I will have Amol and Sunil answer to you, but it really is not the same thing... Attribute is not grouping. We shows it to Luke, Martin, Robert already...  Take sometimes to compare both... I will like to see what Siteglide can do using attribute if I am wrong...  Just to add, that Siteglide can use my Clim Cash site to make a demo... 

Hello Emily,

     Daniel is right. Siteglide Attributes is not same as BC product grouping. Because In Siteglide Attribute there is Single Product with different properties. But BC Product grouping is multiple products grouping together By some common property Color, Size (Small, Medium). Etc

 - Using Siteglide Attribute we can't group products using CSV.

  - But in BC product grouping we can Group products using Backend functionality as well as CSV.

 - In BC we are grouping similar products but Each products have Separate image, Quantity, Description etc.

   - So if we change the Drodown parameter then entire product information will change. i.e Name, image, description, Quantity etc.

 - In Short, In siteglide Attribute Products are not separate which is being grouped together.

   But in BC Products grouping, Every product is individual. And it's information, image, quantity could be different.

   - Exact Requirement =>  We should be able to group individual (separate) products together. we have Products with variations but Each product is separate product.  

   - We shows it to Luke, Martin, Robert already. And I think Daniel shared the credentials for BC site login.

 - I have added screenshots for better understanding. Ref. BC Products Grouping.

Thanks.

This was my thinking too.

Hello Devon,
       
       - I think you are talking about the grouping which we use for Related Products. i.e we create a custom field and the field type will be Datasource Multiselect.

       - If yes. My question is On list View how can we add the Grouped products variations in Dropdown ? And on changing the dropdown option How the product info. and button link will change ?

       - Second thing, We also want the dropdown to show in the detail view. If we change the dropdown it will not redirect to a new product but it will change all product info. and if we click on request a quote button then the updated product ( changed product from dropdown) will be added to cart.

       - Because we want to display the product variation property in the dropdown. i.e. Variation in Size

       - I have referred document for grouping of products https://developers.siteglide.com/how-can-i-set-up-product-grouping-and-allow-customers-to-switch-views-to-another-product-in-the-group

       But we don't want to use it. Because it's not that feasible for us. Here we need to create a category for each group.

       - Already we have so many categories on site. And we have so many grouped products (almost 500-1000). So this method will increase hundreds of categories.

       - I would like to request that you, please take a look at the Live site which is on the BC platform.
       https://www.clim-cash.fr/catalogue-boutique/autres-produits/Accessoires/accessoires-de-ligne

       - Please check the list view and detailed view of products. If needed Daniel can share the Login credentials also.

       - And let me know how we can achieve this in siteglide.

       Thanks. 

You can use a DataSource Multi field for this, and a combination of JavaScript and Liquid to update the data shown on page.

Hello Matt,

 - If you are not talking about grouping using categories. Could you please provide some document for this ? It will helpful for us.

Thanks

Hello Devon,

  scale (the number of products and categories required) is not only the reason. As per this doc. we can use the grouped  Products on detail view only. Because of the changing dropdown here URL is changing. It's not changing product info.

 - So if we add this dropdown to the list view then also on dropdown change it will redirect to detail view of the product.

- If we have 5 variations of a product then if the user wants to see the variations on the list view,  on every change of dropdown it will redirect to detail view of the relative product. Do you really think as a user does it provides flexibility ?

- Also, we don't have a direct option to add product variations text which will appear in the dropdown. as per this doc. you are showing the product name in the dropdown.  May be to achieve this we have to add custom field in product and  we have show that field value in dropdown. 

- In BC we can add the product variations text while grouping itself. or in CSV we can add variations in a single column.

 - This is not exactly the same as BC. We want the same because from backend/ CSV it's very easy to group the products and also from frontend it's very flexible for users to see different variations of products.

- Sorry Devon, but we expect a solution which will provide more flexibility.

 Thanks

Is this what it needs to do? I'm not sure what else BC offered?
This was a quick proof of concept thrown together. Obviously room for improvements in places.

https://mw-demo-20210728-002.staging.oregon.platform-os.com/products

This could be extended to detail views obviously.
 

Hello Matt,

    First of all Thank you for providing us detailed demo of our requirement. we are quite satisfied with your demo (70%).   It will be helpful if you clear our doubts.

 - If we select anyone dropdown option of a product and if we click on Add to Cart then the selected (updated) product must be added to cart which I think is not present in your demo right now.

- If we applied your demo to detail view, will above requirement still works ?

- The dropdown option names in the demo are Product names itself, but we want other names to be displayed there.

  For e.g Any property name or variation name. refer screenshot attached.

- will this code ( Product Layout and Grouped Layout ) available to us ?  Because we are unable to see what code is present in group layout.

Thanks.

1. Yes you can update the add to cart button.
2. You have access to the same data on the detail view as the list view, so anything done in the list will also work in detail.
3. I don't know what you're asking for here then. If it's attributes then use attributes. If it's different products then use different products.
4. It's just a proof of concept showing it can be done. I believe you're already working with SiteGurus to achieve this, and they will likely approach it in the same way.

Hi Matt, 

Big thanks for the demo, that except the few questions Sunil asks looks good to me. 
Great work. 

From there, what I understand is that I should pay Sitegurus to fully developp that option for ME  
Question : Will I be able to sell MY option to other Siteglide user needed it ? 
I say that because I think that option should be integrate for all in Siteglide e-commerce sites. In BC it is a native option. Still missing the steroïdes...)

Anyway, I will contact Sitegurus for my next e-commerce site.

Have a great day

Daniel

@Matt Walter Regarding 3rd point I have tried to clear it in the following points. Hope You will understand.

•  As per demo, You are showing the Grouped Product names in the dropdown E.g : Product 02, Product 03, Product 04, etc .. But we want to show size variations in the dropdown. 
• In BC we are able to add the size variations ( which is displaying in dropdown ) while grouping itself. Refer attached screenshot.
• It means, we want to group individual products as you did. But The dropdown should not display grouped product names, it should display grouped products size.
• I know, while grouping we don't have option to add size variations in siteglide. 
• If you can provide this option well and Good but if it's not feasible to provide this option I have some idea only need  to confirm with you.
• we can add some custom field to products. And we can fill that field option for Grouped products only. And instead of fetching product name in dropdown, we have to  fetch custom field (size) value of grouped product in the dropdown. I will continue with your demo example.
• E.g. Grouped Products
• Product 01 (Size : 5cm), Product 02 (Size : 10cm), Product 03(Size : 15cm)
• You are displaying Product names. i.e Product 01,Product 02,Product 03 in the dropdown as a options.
• But we need to show 5cm,10cm,15cm etc.
• If you check the attached screenshot you will understand easily.
• Thanks

You have access to all the Product's data. Create a custom field for this, and output it in your layout wherever you want.

Thanks Elen,

We will go for Matt option with Sitegurus.

Keep in touch.

Daniel

How?

What i mean is Grouping in BC allowed for tracking of inventory per product as the products were stand alone so inventory easily entered and tracked. Current attribute system does not have inventory per attribute

Ah right, so the solution we've proposed covers this too then.

Hi @Matt Walter  - wondering if there are plans to add inventory tracking for individual attributes? Thanks

https://roadmap.siteglide.com/feature-requests/p/ecommerce-inventory-for-attributes